okay like. supposedly being interested in m/m relationships, or even a specific m/m relationship because you like the specific dynamic depicted is fetishizing. because it’s only acceptable to take an interest in any m/m relationship if you’re a man who likes men, apparently. BUT then also m/f relationships are supposedly relatable and accessible to everybody???
or maybe.
just maybe.
that’s a bullshit argument used to shut down enthusiasm for anything that isn’t heteronormative as well as to shame a group of what is perceived to be young women and girls. because any time young women like anything at all, however harmless or even positive and uplifting, that thing is relentlessly mocked and derided as shallow and ridiculous.
this post has so much going on that i guess i gotta write a whole essay so here we go
as a gay man, i can say with full and total confidence that more often than not, women’s consumption of our relationships, and our sex lives, and our trauma is fetishistic. it’s not about fighting heteronormativity. it’s really not that deep.
finding another man loving man in fandom is incredibly difficult, especially in shipping circles. i’ve been in the tumblr business for almost seven years, and i’ve met maybe 1 or 2 guys total who write slash besides me. slash fiction is dominated almost entirely by women and woman-aligned people, and it’s been this way for a very long time. even a good amount of smutty slash fanzines in the 70s-90s were written by women who liked to write about boys fucking. when i met another guy who wrote slash fanfic, i was completely shocked. it had taken 6 or so years to meet him, and i was completely bowled over. and i just thought “boys don’t write about boys loving boys, that’s not our thing”. but what i wanna know is why isn’t it our thing???
why aren’t most slash fanfics written by boys who love boys? why isn’t a genre, a subculture ABOUT US, something that we’re seemingly not allowed to participate in? why do we feel like outsiders when writing our own stories? why are some of them most praised “gay shows” and “gay books” (for example, the song of achilles and yuri on ice) all written by women, and read by women, and aren’t really catered towards gay men at all even though we’re the SUBJECTS of the story.
when you go through websites like goodreads and look under the “gay romance” section, you see names like madeline, jane, abigail, marie, amy. i mean, abigail roux’s writing alone probably takes up half the list! you might see a sean or a david thrown in, but for the most part, stories about men loving each other are written by women. ones that are written by men often don’t get the attention reigned in by the foxhole court and cut and run. that’s where the issue lies. in a community supposedly dedicated to us, our love, our sex, our relationships, we take the back seat. we don’t get recognition. we don’t get control. we don’t get to tell OUR stories OUR WAY.
not to mention, much of slash has always been smut. and that smut, for a lot of questioning boys who love boys, that’s our first exposure to sex between two men. i know it was for me. but when it’s written by someone who’s never been a man having sex with a man (and no, if you’re a cis girl having sex with a cis man is not the same way trans men have sex with cis men, but y’alls abysmal treatment of trans men will have to wait for another post), it’s often written inaccurately and unsafely. not using a condom? unsafe. spit as lube? definitely not safe. SHOVING IT IN???????? REALLY NOT SAFE. rimming someone without having them clean or use an enema first????
not only unsafe, but also really gross. the general consensus (and yes i asked) about this is that safe sex has been deemed by slash shippers to be “boring”. they want to get right to the fucking, no time for prep (which is literally the most important part), no time for cleaning, no time for lube, no time for protection. this is incredibly dangerous for young men who love men who are trying to figure out all the different ways that we can make love to each other. if this is their only exposure, they’re going to think that doing this is okay. they’re going to think “yeah, i can just shove my tongue into someone’s dirty asshole” or “i don’t have to prepare my partner before shoving very large into something very tiny” which is not the case and will get people hurt. i know fic isn’t supposed to be a sex ed class, but the lack of sex safety is really concerning.
and when men who love men like myself bring up the fact that maybe you guys should stay in your lane a little and let us take the wheel in a genre entirely dedicated to us having sex with each other, you somehow claim that we are “kinkshaming” you and being misogynist by taking away “the one place where women can explore their kinks without judgement”. which is complete and total bullshit because FIRST OF ALL gay people are not your kink. we are not your fetish, we don’t exist for your entertainment or your gratification. if you really think that two men who make love to each other is your “fetish”, then maybe that’s telling you something. human beings aren’t kinks. so fuck outta here with that.
and the obsession with boys enduring homophobic and sometimes transphobic abuse and rape for the sake of ~angst~ and hurt/comfort is uh pretty fucked up. the obsession people have with gay trauma is by far the most disturbing of all. like so many woman slash writers go out of their way to subject gbt male characters to all sorts of injury and abuse just so they can be ~comforted~ and possibly get comfort sex. the idea that you want to see us hurt just because you think it’s cute when we comfort each other isn’t okay. like, didn’t someone want to write a check please fanfic about the pulse shooting??? yeah how can any of you look at that and think it’s okay. it’s not okay. in no world is that okay.
so this brings me to your claim that if gay/bi/pan men (including trans men and male-aligned people) tell you to maybe chill out and maybe let us write stories about us for a change, that’s a misogynistic/homophobic/shallow statement. this just blows my mind. i need a little more clarification about why it’s such an evil no-no for us to want to represent ourselves or speak for ourselves or tell our own stories. because it kinda seems homophobic that you’re so angry about gbt men wanting to represent themselves. it almost sounds like you only think our love and our sex and our lives exist only for you to write and read about. you’re making it sound like we are objects made for your consumption, and by establishing ourselves as real people is ruining your fantasy.
nobody’s saying you can’t be supportive of gbt boys and want to write about them in your stories. but for the love of god, don’t get angry when we want to tell our own stories, and don’t pitch a fit when we express that we’re uncomfortable with being objectified for your own sexual gratification.
tldlr; men who love men have never existed for your consumption. we are not your “escape from heteronormativity”, we are not your “safe space for kink exploration”, we are not your favorite ships, we are not your kudos on ao3. we are real men with real stories who want a chance to express ourselves in a genre that’s about us but that we seemingly aren’t allowed into. we are people, and we deserve to and be seen as people and treated like people. stop speaking over us and invalidating our concerns about how we’re being treated. and that’s the tea. 🏳️🌈💁♂️☕️
Stop presenting yourself and your opinions as the only gay opinions that exist. Stop conflating your identity with the things you like and empathize with or share similarities too. You’re not all gay men in the universe. You talk like you’re all gay men boiled to a singularity, but you’re not.
Trump is the president of America and you’re displacing your anger on yaoi fangirls of all thing sin the universe.
It’s true, you don’t exist for the pleasure of straight women. But fictional characters exist for the pleasure of their readers and their readers can do whatever the hell they want with them after the fact.
These fictional people literally exist for consumption. And it really doesn’t matter how creepy and controlling you get people can write whatever they please and they owe you absolutely nothing. This whole rant is you muttering to yourself about how you feel like you don’t belong because you’re upset the majority of men watch porn videos and don’t write erotic. Than you hold women to these hilarious double standards.
Let’s try to unpack even a fraction of the creepy controlling bullshit in this post.
when you go through websites like goodreads and look under the “gay
romance” section, you see names like madeline, jane, abigail, marie,
amy. i mean, abigail roux’s writing alone probably takes up half the
list! you might see a sean or a david thrown in, but for the most part,
stories about men loving each other are written by women.
Most men watch live action porn. Most men do not have an interest in writing romance novels or erotica. That is not women’s fault. They’re not pushing us out. You’re projecting your insecurities onto them.
(and no, if you’re a cis girl having sex with a cis man is not the same
way trans men have sex with cis men, but y’alls abysmal treatment of
trans men will have to wait for another post),
This parts hilarious because it’s kinda like you forgot women can have anal sex. I mean I’ll admit I don’t really know how it feels different, but most of what I personally get out of it is that fullness and I feel like that can’t be too different from what a woman feels.
This gets super funny when you bring up trans men and cis men fucking. Dude, if it’s a penis going in a vagina. It’s not sorta the exact same sex act, it’s literally the same sex act just with two men. You talk about men fucking like it’s this Lovecraft horror beyond straight peoples comprehension.
it’s often written inaccurately and unsafely. not using a condom?
unsafe. spit as lube? definitely not safe. SHOVING IT IN???????? REALLY
NOT SAFE. rimming someone without having them clean
You probably shouldn’t look to porn for a clinical instructions on how to fuck. But I mean some of this is kinda opinion. Like if I have a boyfriend I’m probably just gonna skip the condom after awhile. And rimming not immediately after a shower hrmmm maybe. I definitely know guys on r/gaybros who just use spit for lube. I don’t know how the fuck they do that maybe they just like pain.
The point being you present yourself as this authority figure to all these women (and let’s face it) teenage girls. When you’re actually just kinda a crazy asshole who’s clearly never read anything written by gay dudes. (And I bet if you did you would just find it problematic.)
Case and Point:
having them clean or use an enema first????
I’m gonna be honest dude this made me scream laugh. I seriously wondered if you have ever had sex with anyone before in your life if you wrote this not immediately seeing the problem.
I have seen enema’s and cleaning out your butt get mentioned twice in stuff written by gay men and once on HBO’s Looking as a joke about a dude who never bottoms for anyone. Look how bored he is.
Nobody puts it in their story because stopping the story in it’s tracks right before a fuck scene to have a character go fuck around in the shower is boring. Conclusion: You’re presenting your preference for a super down to earth realistic to the point of clinical sex scene as some type of straight girl detector when nobody fucking writes that shit.
I see a lot of posts going around talking about the need to be critical of fanfic, and how we gotta watch out for the messages we’re sending
Well, here’s one thing I’m gonna need us to be critical about:
Every statistic I’ve ever seen says fanfic authors are heavily female (or nb)
And Tumblr, which is a fairly US-centric cross-section of fandom, is filled with this discourse about fanfic writers who create pornography
I need us to stop and think about why we’ve decided that fictional sex is the most damaging thing anyone could ever find on the internet
I need us to think about the culture we live in, which encourages us to be sexually available (to straight men) but punishes us if we (sluts) enjoy it
Because here’s the thing: fanfic is not coming from a position of power and prestige in our society
It is a niche genre primarily written by women, for women, for free
And it is a place where many of us do find power in exploring our own sexuality (or asexuality)
Even when that exploration takes us to gritty, horrifying (or cathartic) places
I’m going to need us to think long and hard about why we’re prioritizing fictional characters over the needs of real women
And I’m going to need it to stop
Fandom purity wank is absolutely about control over women and women’s sexuality. There’s nothing ambiguous about it.
Just think about the hot-button issues in the fannish community, the topics that consistently and reliably get people worked up into a lather, the themes that provoke the nastiest conflicts and inspire the most dedicated resistance movements. Think about the fights that are most likely to spill out over their cyber boundaries and start affecting people in the real world – in public harassment at cons, in doxxing and ‘outing’ to family and employers, in malicious legal allegations.
It’s about sex. It’s always about sex.
From the constant tantrums over ‘problematic’ shipping to the righteous doxxing of ‘pedophiles’ (which in current tumblr parlance means anyone who draws or writes canonically underage characters in romantic or erotic scenarios), fandom’s big efforts at moral reform always seem to revolve around restricting and controlling the sexual expression of the majority-women community. You won’t meet many people who stay up past their bedtime to scream at strangers on the internet about unethical portrayals of non-sexual violence – unless, of course, they suspect the women involved in its creation are getting off on it. You’ll struggle to find an anti blog dedicated to the insidious social ills of torture whump fic, or goopy hurt-comfort where all manner of human suffering is put on display for the viewer’s enjoyment. The purity crew dress up their agenda as a desire for collective self-improvement and raised moral standards, but they don’t seem too worried about aspects of public morality that don’t somehow tie back into sex. What they’re upset about is the same thing conservative minds have been upset about since basically the dawn of time – there are women out there in the world doing icky sex things without the permission of their communities.
And these people, these moral guardians, they’ve gotten really good at couching their fundamentalist views in progressive language. They don’t say ‘you’re to blame if you provoke men to rape’ – they say ‘your fic normalises sexual violence and contributes to rape culture’. They don’t say ‘women ought to be chaste’ – they say ‘your fantasies are socially harmful and you owe it to the world to be more self-critical’. The messages are the same and the desired outcomes are literally identical.
The core assumption underlying all of it – an assumption that I’m sure our puritan forebears would find deeply comforting – is that women’s sexual expression is a matter of public concern, and that women are directly responsible for upholding the moral standards of their communities by restricting themselves to a narrow repertoire of publicly controlled, socially condoned sexual outlets. Anything beyond that repertoire is a grave moral breach.
To anyone who’s reading this – and there’s always a few – thinking, “this is just deflection! [X hot-button topic] is really bad and harmful!’, I’d like to encourage you to sit back for just a moment and think about why it is, exactly, that you feel the best and most important place to wage your war against moral corruption is in one of the only pockets of popular media that women unequivocally control. Of all the spaces in the world where you could be fighting for your view of a better society, you’ve chosen a place where women come together to share the fantasies that mainstream culture refuses to let them indulge. Why?
It’s bible banging bullshit in a progressive mask.
But why would Haggar willingly hold herself back from a rightful title in the empire? She doesn’t even hold the title of advisor, no one calls her your highness, excellency, Dr, or even lady.
Don’t tell me she’s Zarkon’s pawn because it’s clearly her holding back, it’s her stepping down when she thinks she crossed a line that she drew, and it makes me wonder why. She is obviously the co-ruler of the Galra empire, the honorary empress, so again, why no title?
Well, Pororok’s entire attitude towards her indicates that even among them, she is deemed an outsider. She’s “the witch” and that’s it, and now we know that Galra females probably look drastically different from her, so they all know she is no Galra.
I think she’s ashamed of being Altean tbh. She turned against her race for a reason, and that reason must be big, they must have seriously wronged her, big time. Her loyalty to Zarkon, the way she acts as if she somehow owes it to him, makes me believe that Altea did something horrible to her, and it’s thanks to him that she’s still around and well.
Which leads me to a different point about her son. It’s no use denying now that Lotor is clearly hers, no other being in the universe can be even come near the level of Zarkon’s equal, she is the only being in the universe who he values and treats as a partner.
I think it’s really her that hid Lotor away from the public, not Zarkon. I think it’s really her that has the ultimate control over Lotor’s life, since she’s just as vicious and ruthless as he is, and I wouldn’t say it’s far-fetched to assume that parenting is the one thing she won’t hold herself back on.
But this brings up so many questions! Why only now choose to have a child? Lotor looks and seemingly acts very young, so he’s a clear recent development. Zarkon and Haggar don’t need heirs since they’re immortal and too powerful to be taken down.
Like okay, let’s say they couldn’t predict that he’d turn out more like her and very Altean looking, and wanted a weapon. We’ll go with the boring pragmatic villain route here for a minute then, despite the creative team saying time and time again that there is more to Zarkon and Haggar than it seems.
Let’s say he’s a tube baby, created by combining their genes to get Zarkon’s power and her magic, and it failed. Then what? If they are the heartless villains everyone thinks they are, why not just get rid of him? Ugh I have so many questions and no one’s theories are satisfying me enough!
Whoa, I didn’t realize that it was so deliberate, I honestly thought it was unconscious
Scary, scary.
Gonna add on to this: From the other side of the bar, I see this crap all the time. Seriously. I work at a high-density bar, and let me tell you, I have anywhere from 10-20 guys every night come up and tell me to, “serve her a stronger drink, I’m trying to get lucky tonight, know what I mean?” usually accompanied with a wink and a gesture at a girl who, in my experience, is going to go from mildly buzzed to definitively hammered if I keep serving her. Now, I like to think I’m a responsible bartender, so I usually tell guys like that to piss off, and, if I can, try to tell the girl’s more sober friends that they need to keep an eye on her. But everyone- just so you know, most of the time, when someone you don’t know is buying you a drink, they’re NOT doing it out of a sense of cordiality, they’re buying you a drink for the sole purpose of making you let your guard down. So:
Tips for getting drinks-
1. ALWAYS GO TO THE BAR TO GET YOUR OWN DRINK, DO NOT LET STRANGERS CARRY YOUR DRINKS. This is an opportune time for dropping something into your cocktail, and you’re none the wiser.
2.IF YOU ORDER SOMETHING NON-ALCOHOLIC, I promise you, the bartender doesn’t give two shits that you’re not drinking cocktails with your friends, and often, totally understands that you don’t want to let your guard down around strangers. Usually, you can just tell the bartender that you’d like something light, and that’s a big clue to us that you’re uncomfortable with whomever you’re standing next to. Again, we see this all the time.
3. If you’re in a position to where you feel uncomfortable not ordering alcohol:
Here’s a list of light liquors, and mixers that won’t get you drunk, and will still look like an actual cocktail:
X-rated + sprite = easy to drink, sweet, and 12% alcoholic content. Not strong at all, usually runs $6-$8, depending on your state.
Amaretto + sour= sweet, not strong, 26%.
Peach Schnapps+ ginger ale= tastes like mellow butterscotch, 24%.
Melon liquor (Midori, in most bars) + soda water = not overly sweet, 21%
Coffee liquor (Kahlua) +soda = not super sweet, 20%.
We’re back again, folks. This time, with the most STUPIDEST discourse ever: SHOES.
Yes, the Voltron fandom has dragged in Pidge’s VA: Bex, for making a ship comment & liking several pro-ship comments. (If it was Klance, there would be no discourse, but that’s just how the Voltron fandom rolls.)
Once again: it’s time for Voltron Fandom News with Lord Pastel Lance.
holy shit literal children should not be taught abt sex and preteens that do experience sexual attraction have no privilege over their peers who might experience it later or not at all
ok but leaving the discourse behind, sex education is actually really important though??? i mean, my elementary school taught that so sex wouldn’t be a stigmatized thing for in the future
literal children are already taught about sex, i don’t understand. in my elementary school, in 4th grade we were taught about “”“male and female”“” development and “urges” we would feel. in 5th grade, we saw actual pictures of naked adult bodies, and in 6th grade we were taught about “types” of sex and protection and pregnancy.
my parents gave me a book targeted at 7-12 year olds that also taught about sex and the body and sex organs and shit like that, like. this post is objectively bad. education from a young age is good and important for the destigmatization of sex in society. i don’t understand, is there a point you hadn’t made clear that i’m misunderstanding, maybe?
let’s not show nudes to ten year olds what fucking school did you go to
learning abt puberty =/= learning about how to fuck and 110 versions of asexuality
I… wha… where the hell were you raised that you think there’s something wrong with kids knowing what a naked body looks like? What century is this?
Sex education isn’t just learning about puberty; it’s learning about sex, relationships and consent, and it’s goddamn important even for children.
I started having sexual fantasies when I was 4 years old; I just didn’t know what they were at the time, or why they made me feel strangely good. My Mum gave me my first book on sex and sexual health when I was 8, but by that time I’d already heard years’ worth of playground rumours about “sex” ranging from the improbable to the downright terrifying, and had at least one inappropriate physical encounter with another child. It’s much better for kids to be taught healthy and safe attitudes to their own sexual development – physiological and mental – than for them run off fifth-hand misconceptions they pick up from equally clueless kids.
I’m not saying we should be teaching five-year-olds about reverse cowgirl. I’m saying it’s never too early to teach kids messages like, “If she’s not having fun you have to stop.” I’m saying most kids have some awareness that sex and sexuality exist, even if they don’t fully understand what those things are. I’m saying some kids have feelings about getting physical with other people from a very early age. I was particularly precocious, but the average age people start experiencing sexual attraction is 10 years old.
And I’m saying that all of these things are why it’s crucially important to give kids the tools and information they need to contextualise and process their understanding of sex and sexuality, both in terms of their own possible sexual identities (all possible sexual identities), and of course in terms of consent and bodily autonomy.
Apart from anything else, we’ve seen proof that this makes kids safer in terms of identifying and reporting sexual abuse. The puritan myth that kids live in some magical fairyland isolated from any conception of sex or sexuality literally causes harm to children. You’re not protecting them from dangerous information, you’re depriving them of information and support they need to safely contextualise their experiences and feelings.
Teaching kids about sex is not the same thing as encouraging kids to have sex. That is literally the exact same bullshit argument that religious fundamentalists use to try to justify abstinence-only sex ed.
Studies show that teaching kids about sex actually delays their sexual debut as well as reduces the risk of STDs and unwanted pregnancy. The more you teach kids about sex, the less they actually have it.
Children live in a sexualised world. All 10-year-olds have already been exposed to sex in advertisements, on TV, and on the internet. If they don’t know what sex is, only that it’s this secret, shameful, dangerous thing they’re supposed to want and which will make them cool and successful people if they have it, they’ll explore their own sexuality in ignorant, harmful ways. This is why the USA have the highest rates of teen pregnancy in the developed world:
The only way to keep children safe is to empower them with the knowledge to make informed decisions about their own sexuality. No one was ever protected from something by keeping them ignorant of it! And no information is actually harmful if presented in age-appropriate ways – which, by the way, also doesn’t mean what antis and Americans think it means.
My school showed us a video of what was essentially softcore porn at age
10. I mean full on nudity, an erect penis, how to roll on a condom, a
man and a woman having gentle sex, and then how to remove the condom and
tie it off. It completely undid the ~mystery~ of sex and made us go
‘huh, that’s it? nah, not really interested actually.’
You can watch the sex ed video here on the Danish National TV’s web archive; it’s in Danish, but you can jump to 10:10 for the sex scene, although honestly I think you’d find the whole video fascinating even if you can’t understand what they’re saying.
Also “let’s not show nudes to kids” they’re clinical photos? About as risque as something you’d see in a fucking doctor’s office. Aside from that, you realize there are societies worldwide where it’s perfectly normal for parents and children to do stuff like bathe together, right? Nudity isn’t inherently sexual and shameful; sex ed lessons help make it so through basic understanding.
so, in conclusion, teaching kids about sex, sexuality, and therefore, the existence of asexuality is important and NOT FUCKING PEDOPHILIA
Truly these antis are advocating for a neo-victorian anti sex era. It’s fascinating how these people are literally the moralists and fundamentalists that we dealt with throughout history but gay. It’s something worth studying tbh.
Anyone that watched Golion will tell you the same thing, it’s misogynistic to its core, and makes you so uncomfortable that it feels like you’re being punished instead of entertained.
Obviously the sexual violence was omitted when it became Voltron, but the sexism is still enact. Where am I going with this? Well, it’s no surprise that I’ll use this to further my argument that Haggar is Lotor’s mom in the reboot.
The first episode you’ll find in the handpicked episodes by the staff from the original is the episode the sleeping princess, which despite the story being changed severely from the original, the feeling of discomfort is still there, and Montgomery seems to agree, seeing that this episode haunted her as a child.
In Golion Lotor’s -or rather Sincline’s- mother was a slave, and it’s made clear that he’s a child conceived by rape. In the Robotech/Voltron crossover, there was a new character named Lora who used herself as a tool in order to bring peace, but was brutally killed in order to show us that Lotor is a tragic character.
Both cases are rooted in sexist writing, but it doesn’t just end there. In the special, Fleet of Doom, an original made for Voltron, we get some icky background with Haggar. Taken from the wiki.
Haggar goes on to say that Zarkon did this to her, making her look the way she is now. By the end of the film she disguises herself as a beautiful woman and fuckboy Zarkon drops everything and legit just goes hey there babe.
Original Zarkon was a sexist womanising pig, and that trait was inherited by Lotor, even if downplayed in some adaptations. The staff has implied numerous times that Lotor won’t have that morbid obsession with Allura. Probably because the Oedipus complex won’t be present this time around.
As I’ve stated in previous posts, Zarkon and Haggar in VLD are equals, something that they weren’t in previous incarnations. Haggar went through adaptational attractiveness this time around and made Altean for a reason, not to mention her white hair, something iconic to Lotor in particular in this franchise.
The staff clearly feels uncomfortable with the sexist elements of the original, and watching the reboot you can tell they kept the sexism in the past. Allura has agency, Coran isn’t a sexist dude trying to keep her in the kitchen, and Haggar’s whole thing isn’t lol look at that freaky ugly witch anymore. All of them are interesting and dynamic characters now.
With Zarkon and Haggar you feel history there, as it’s clear that she’s loyal to him for a reason. It could be just my shipping goggles, but it comes across as almost previous lovers, worn down by age and moved on to greater things, and the mere presence of the other is enough now.
BL: It’s much more interesting to the narrative and cohesive to the characters to have Haggar be Lotor’s mother now. Also unholy matrimonies and villainous families are just great to write in general.
“Eww imagine Zarkon being the father of lotor???? That means he dID IT WITH SOMEONE,, EWWWwW!!1!”
Yes. Zarkon is Lotors father.
THIS MAN IS MORE THAN 10,000 YEARS OLD AND STILL FUCKIN RIPPED, B Y E
ALSO YOUNG ZARKON?? YEAH HI HE AIN’T EVEN UGLY WDYM
sorry for the rant but like;;;; he don’t even look ugly wtf. Yes, he is old af, but he doESNT LOOK A DAY OVER 35 AND IDC IF YOU CALL ME OUT FOR THIRSTING OVER GALRA I KNOW YOU SECRETLY DO TOO.
rant over.
Don’t forget who the other potential parent is
“eeeeewww, imagine that they did it, that’s the worst part!1″
Ya’ll are boring with bad taste because that’s some good sex right there. Also Lotor wouldn’t be nearly as gorgeous for you all to thirst after him if it wasn’t for her. Look at her beautiful face, stunning hair, sharp and delicate features, and natural eyeliner shaped eyes. All what we gush about in her -most likely- son.
If ya’ll are gonna thirst after the pretty boy cow you better thank mommy and daddy here for their good genes.
superheroladies 